Episode 21

Grand Canyon Wisdom & Why Laughing Matters

Published on: 14th October, 2025

In Episode 21 of We Should Probably Edit This – But We Won’t, Nancy and Matthew record from the rim of the Grand Canyon and dive into a wide-ranging, often hilarious conversation about marriage, memories, and making fun a priority. They talk about:

  • Why humor is essential in relationships
  • Inside jokes that keep families connected
  • The surprising lessons of off-grid living
  • RV dreams and solo trips with their grown kids
  • Embracing discomfort (like memory-foam rocks) for real connection
  • Why adventure is better when shared

They even reflect on the shortness of life in the face of 500 million years of erosion. It's deep, funny, and full of heart.

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 People Mentioned

• Ben, Katie & Noah – Their adult kids (get ready for solo trips!)

• A very specific friend who would NOT sit on the edge of the Grand Canyon

🏢 Places/Events Mentioned

• Grand Canyon National Park

• GrowthDay Ultra Event – Scottsdale, AZ

• Starlink Wi-Fi (out in the wild)

• That one off-the-grid Airbnb they’ll never forget

Transcript
Speaker A:

Hi, I'm Matthew Greger.

Speaker B:

And I'm Nancy Greger.

Speaker A:

We have this podcast called We Should.

Speaker B:

Probably Edit this, But we won't.

Speaker B:

Our podcast is about us, our relationship, our 37 years of being married, raising.

Speaker A:

Three children, and hopefully we can share.

Speaker B:

Something that would be inspiring, honest, truthful.

Speaker A:

As our tagline says, unfiltered, unscripted, and unapologetically us.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker B:

We should probably edit this, but we won't.

Speaker B:

Hi.

Speaker A:

Hi.

Speaker B:

I'm Nancy.

Speaker A:

I'm Matthew.

Speaker B:

We're the Gregors.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

And welcome.

Speaker A:

Welcome to.

Speaker A:

We Should Probably Edit this, But we won't.

Speaker A:

So where are we?

Speaker B:

Where are we?

Speaker B:

Oh, we are at the Grand Canyon.

Speaker A:

It's truly amazing.

Speaker B:

It's hard to believe that we're as old as we are and we've never taken a trip out here.

Speaker B:

I got to tell you, pictures don't do it justice.

Speaker B:

You really have to be here to see for sure.

Speaker B:

For sure.

Speaker A:

So what's our topic today?

Speaker B:

What is our topic?

Speaker A:

We didn't really talk about it much.

Speaker B:

No, we didn't.

Speaker B:

We've been.

Speaker A:

Look at me.

Speaker B:

We've been at a whirlwind adventure so far.

Speaker B:

We did our ultra event in Scottsdale.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

And we met up with a whole bunch of friends, met a whole bunch of new people.

Speaker A:

Connections are so important.

Speaker B:

They are.

Speaker B:

They really help you move forward.

Speaker A:

You have to have those times that you can be with others, because community and connection, that's what life's all about.

Speaker B:

And it keeps you fresh.

Speaker A:

Just imagine sharing this beauty by yourself and not appreciating something, this grandeur in life, without being able to share it with somebody.

Speaker B:

And I'm glad I'm here to share it with you.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

So some of the side cliffs, we have a friend of ours who would not like some of the.

Speaker A:

She wouldn't be sitting right here.

Speaker B:

She definitely would not be sitting next to us and.

Speaker B:

And probably would be on the inside of the trail versus on the edge of the trail, for sure.

Speaker B:

But it is.

Speaker B:

It is really, truly nice.

Speaker B:

And it's always important that.

Speaker B:

The one thing that I learned during the ultra event was to have fun and to help incorporate fun.

Speaker A:

And that's why we're doing this podcast right now.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Here.

Speaker A:

Just make having fun, having fun, not.

Speaker B:

Taking ourselves a little chilly.

Speaker B:

It is chilly.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker B:

I didn't think it was going to be.

Speaker B:

First of all, it was raining.

Speaker B:

Phoenix, Scottsdale was raining, but the weather here is cold.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Compared to.

Speaker A:

There you go from 90 degrees to 60 degrees.

Speaker A:

And then what's unique in the.

Speaker A:

In the Grand Canyon, they're saying there's like a little valley down below and the temperature there is in.

Speaker A:

In the 80s.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker B:

I'm not hiking all the way down to the valley.

Speaker A:

Come on, it could be fun.

Speaker B:

Not.

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker A:

Because this may be the last podcast they would ever hear from us if we did that.

Speaker B:

Going down is not.

Speaker B:

The issue is coming back up.

Speaker B:

That's going to be more complicated.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, we are having fun, and we're trying to make sure that we do incorporate fun in every.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about fun.

Speaker A:

You know, because I think it's important to laugh.

Speaker A:

That's actually one of my three words.

Speaker A:

Laugh is to inspire, laugh and amaze.

Speaker A:

I want to be inspired by people, by things in the world.

Speaker A:

I want to laugh and have a good time.

Speaker A:

I also want to be amazed by the wonders of this world.

Speaker A:

And this is truly amazing.

Speaker A:

Yes, out here.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker B:

It truly is amazing.

Speaker A:

So do you think humor is important?

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker B:

I think especially in a marriage, you have to have humor.

Speaker B:

I mean, if you can't find something funny.

Speaker A:

Goodness.

Speaker B:

About your partner, it's usually.

Speaker A:

It's something that I've done.

Speaker B:

I could tell you.

Speaker B:

I could tell you one of the most funniest stories that I can remember right off the top of my head, and I'm going to say it.

Speaker B:

So we took our kids skiing, and we had a truck at the time, and we weren't going to go skiing, but we took the kids skiing.

Speaker B:

And we pull up, we park, we're getting ready to get out of the truck, and my husband gets out.

Speaker B:

Here is my husband.

Speaker B:

He gets out, and the next thing you know.

Speaker A:

Wait a second, Wait a second.

Speaker A:

Let me just.

Speaker A:

Let me tell you this.

Speaker A:

So the kids are still climbing out, getting out of the back seat of the truck, and.

Speaker A:

And all of a sudden they look around, they say, where's dad?

Speaker B:

Dad wiped out right there, by the way.

Speaker A:

As soon as I stepped out of the truck, it just was a sheet of ice right there.

Speaker A:

And I just.

Speaker A:

And I was gone.

Speaker A:

I think I was under the truck.

Speaker A:

The truck.

Speaker B:

But that.

Speaker B:

See, now, I'm not saying that laughter has to come from some type of, you know, bad thing happening to somebody.

Speaker B:

He didn't get hurt, but it's.

Speaker B:

That's not necessarily.

Speaker A:

I don't think I laughed at the moment.

Speaker B:

He definitely not left at the moment.

Speaker B:

And most of us try to keep the laughter in because that's the normal reaction with people.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Something Happens that looks funny.

Speaker B:

You kind of, you know, laugh.

Speaker B:

But in the, in, in time he realized it was very, very funny.

Speaker B:

But we were glad he didn't hurt himself.

Speaker B:

But it's important to have laughter in your relationship and, and find laughter.

Speaker B:

And it doesn't have to be like I said, falling down type of laughter.

Speaker B:

Sometimes it's.

Speaker A:

But you have to have a good belly laugh.

Speaker A:

I think you have to have a good Billy laugh.

Speaker B:

We do have a good.

Speaker A:

And I've.

Speaker A:

I can remember many of those around at the table either at dinner time or the holidays playing a game.

Speaker A:

Y.

Speaker A:

And most of the time, of course I probably the one that set it off because I didn't fully understand the game or I didn't understand what things meant.

Speaker A:

So like, like one of them was when we were traveling, somebody said loser.

Speaker A:

There was something doing with a loser.

Speaker A:

So you're supposed to hold it up like this.

Speaker A:

But no, I decided I, I didn't understand the whole concept so I just went, did this.

Speaker A:

And so that was like the family.

Speaker B:

That was the family joke for a while.

Speaker B:

We even have a picture of all of us with that, with that, with doing that for.

Speaker B:

And it was a Christmas picture too that we took.

Speaker B:

Nobody got it.

Speaker B:

But it was an inside joke for us.

Speaker B:

Us.

Speaker B:

And sometimes that's what you have to have is those inside jokes.

Speaker B:

And I can tell you that there could be moments where we might be across the ways from each other, but we see something and we lock eyes and we know exactly then we have.

Speaker A:

To stop from laughing.

Speaker A:

Especially if it's in a public setting or we're in a.

Speaker A:

We're in more of a quiet time at the moment.

Speaker B:

You have to be like, don't show it.

Speaker B:

But you and your partner know exactly what that joke is.

Speaker B:

And so there's a lot, there's a lot of that going on.

Speaker B:

And I think that's really important in a relationship is you have to have fun.

Speaker B:

You have to know how to have fun.

Speaker B:

You've got to be able to just go with things and not worry so much about the details and enjoy.

Speaker B:

Cuz you know what?

Speaker B:

We're not here for very long and before you know it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Especially when we walked the millions of miles.

Speaker A:

The, you know, the Grand Canyon really.

Speaker B:

Shows you how the evolution of it all.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but, but how, how short of time that we have been here.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Because we were I think at the 500 almost 600 million mark right now.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And it, and it was 540 million years that we were at the upper part of The Grand Canyon.

Speaker A:

And it's taken over 500 million years to carve this canyon out.

Speaker A:

And when you think about that, you know, your lifetime, if you're lucky of a hundred years, such a small fragment of the time of what we've been here.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

No, why not enjoy it?

Speaker A:

Why not summon the best of who you are and who you can be?

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

And enjoy your family, enjoy your friends, enjoy the time together.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Enjoy it.

Speaker B:

Just like right now, I'm doing.

Speaker B:

I. I had to really think about the place we were staying at, and I have to bring my better self and learn to embrace something that is definitely not in my wheelhouse.

Speaker B:

But that's okay because not everything can be in your wheelhouse.

Speaker B:

So you have to be really open and receptive to things.

Speaker A:

And it's actually.

Speaker A:

Actually did a decent job of creating an off the grid house.

Speaker A:

You know, it's.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker B:

He did.

Speaker B:

No, he did.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's not, you know, maybe something that we would live in all the time, but when you think about off the grid, you know, there's battery operated power, there's solar powers.

Speaker A:

He put a lot of effort into it.

Speaker A:

He really did.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Trying to make accommodations for people.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

With the best resources that he had and giving you an alternative.

Speaker A:

The only advice I can give is really try not to come to a place at dark.

Speaker A:

You completely lose your bearings.

Speaker A:

And not only that, you're not sure of what the surroundings are like.

Speaker A:

And then it makes things just.

Speaker A:

You don't fit into it.

Speaker A:

I think you needed that good night's sleep.

Speaker A:

Oh, I think we just lost our.

Speaker A:

Our vantage point.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

The wind blew.

Speaker A:

That's okay.

Speaker A:

We can keep going.

Speaker A:

We're not going to edit this, remember?

Speaker A:

We should probably edit this, but we won't.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So as you can tell, we had a little malfunction, but we're back on, on track again.

Speaker B:

That's what happens when you video out in the open with the wind blowing.

Speaker A:

And the camera popped against the tree.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Using my hat as a.

Speaker A:

As a brace.

Speaker B:

As a brace, yes.

Speaker B:

On a tree limb.

Speaker B:

A dicey tree limb, but in.

Speaker B:

In any case.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, so that's.

Speaker B:

That's our video today.

Speaker A:

So what kind of fun do you want to have?

Speaker B:

Oh, I definitely want to have fun where I'm not in a off the grid home, that's for sure.

Speaker B:

I definitely want to travel more.

Speaker B:

I want to see the rest of this world.

Speaker B:

There's so much here.

Speaker B:

You know what's funny?

Speaker B:

We were here at the Grand Cany And I have heard people speaking Italian, speaking Spanish, speaking German, speaking Dutch.

Speaker B:

And it's amazing how the small this world really is and how there's so much out there, and I want to see it all.

Speaker B:

I want to go to as many places as I possibly can.

Speaker A:

So what's one fun thing you want.

Speaker B:

To do today or on this trip?

Speaker A:

No, just what's.

Speaker A:

There we go again.

Speaker B:

Oh, mechanical difficulties.

Speaker B:

Number two.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's very, very windy.

Speaker A:

Your papa can't hear us real well either.

Speaker A:

Well, I don't know if my head's in it or not.

Speaker B:

Okay, well, this is tilted to begin with.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

Okay, we're at, like.

Speaker A:

We're only, like, at 11 minutes in, so.

Speaker B:

Oh, well, it's also getting cold sitting on this rock.

Speaker A:

All right, so are we really not gonna edit this?

Speaker A:

Seems like it's really tilted now, but.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

No, well, see how it comes out?

Speaker B:

It's crooked.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker B:

That should be a symbol in itself.

Speaker A:

So what are fun things that you want to do?

Speaker B:

Fun things I want to do.

Speaker B:

Travel, see my grandchildren more often than maybe once or twice a year.

Speaker A:

Would you want to do fun things with them?

Speaker B:

I would love to do fun things.

Speaker A:

Like what?

Speaker B:

They're a bunch of fun humans.

Speaker B:

I'd like to take them traveling to see different things.

Speaker B:

They might have to wait until they're a little bit older because they may not be ready for that.

Speaker B:

Or maybe I should say their mom and dad may not be ready for that, but I would definitely would enjoy that.

Speaker B:

I have a child who's going to be turning 30, 20, 26, and I want to do something fun with him, something he wants to do, but that we can all do it.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker A:

You didn't do that with your daughter?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

You and her had one thing.

Speaker A:

It wasn't with everybody.

Speaker B:

I couldn't help that.

Speaker B:

I did try, but that didn't work out.

Speaker B:

But, like, you know, we have to take advantage of the situations that we're in.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And they're not always going to be perfect, so we just have to take advantage of the situation.

Speaker A:

You have to make the best out.

Speaker B:

Of what you have, what you give.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker B:

We can do that.

Speaker B:

What do you want to do?

Speaker B:

What are some fun things you want to do?

Speaker A:

Well, I mean, I definitely want to take each one of my kids on a trip on their own and do something just with each one individually.

Speaker B:

You hear that, Ben, Katie, and Noah.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

So I need some ideas on what you guys would want to do with dad.

Speaker B:

Hint.

Speaker A:

I would love to go fishing again soon.

Speaker A:

I'd actually like to go fishing before the end of this year.

Speaker A:

That would be fun for me.

Speaker A:

I know it's not for you, but that'd be the.

Speaker A:

One of the fun things that I would.

Speaker A:

I'd want to do, and I would like to.

Speaker A:

To travel and see more of this world.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like what we're doing today.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, I think you see pictures of things and you see things, but until you're there, it's just like this weekend, if you're not in the room.

Speaker A:

It's not the same thing.

Speaker B:

It's not the same thing.

Speaker A:

You don't feel it.

Speaker A:

And you have to feel things also to have real fun.

Speaker A:

You've got to feel it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Whether it's jumping off the cliff on a.

Speaker A:

On a BASE jump or skydiving or hiking, you've got to feel it.

Speaker A:

That's what I think.

Speaker A:

But I would like to travel more with you.

Speaker A:

I honestly want to get the rv and I definitely want to travel the coast of California and other areas in an rv.

Speaker A:

You know, now that we're off the grid and we're using Starlink, you know, it's actually pretty good service.

Speaker A:

So I definitely would want.

Speaker B:

It's not about the video service.

Speaker B:

It's not about this.

Speaker A:

It's about WI fi and being able to work.

Speaker B:

Bathrooms are not dictated by WI fi.

Speaker B:

Water is not dictated by WI fi.

Speaker A:

But you can work on that.

Speaker A:

You can have a good.

Speaker A:

If you have a good RV thing.

Speaker B:

And you have a good campground that you can connect.

Speaker B:

Yeah, possibly.

Speaker B:

Possibly.

Speaker A:

But I can say that living off the grid in this weekend or these few days that we're here, I think it showed you that shows us that we really don't need very much.

Speaker A:

You know, and maybe that's a hint to our next stage in life, too, in our next chapter, I don't know.

Speaker B:

Is that we don't need a lot in life, that we don't need certain amenities.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

But we don't need to have a big place.

Speaker A:

We don't need to have a lot of things.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

No, we don't.

Speaker A:

If we.

Speaker A:

If we.

Speaker A:

If we move forward in different areas.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, maybe it's okay to get rid of things and to go.

Speaker B:

I think.

Speaker B:

I think we've done that several times.

Speaker B:

I mean, we've moved several times, and each house we've moved to, we've.

Speaker B:

We've downsized.

Speaker B:

It always ends up, though.

Speaker B:

Never.

Speaker B:

Never fails.

Speaker B:

And everybody can.

Speaker B:

Everybody knows this.

Speaker B:

It doesn't matter.

Speaker B:

You can go into A new place.

Speaker B:

You will fill it up with stuff.

Speaker B:

Stuff.

Speaker B:

It doesn't matter if it's one bedroom or two bedroom.

Speaker B:

You are going to fill it up with stuff.

Speaker A:

Half the time it's junk.

Speaker B:

No, I have the things I always say.

Speaker B:

Stuff.

Speaker A:

We'll look at the basement.

Speaker B:

Oh, well, the basement.

Speaker B:

The basement's a basement.

Speaker B:

It's like.

Speaker B:

For us, it's like a garage, but there you go.

Speaker B:

I mean, we don't have a garage.

Speaker B:

Our garage barely fits our cars.

Speaker B:

So the basement ends up being.

Speaker A:

But we have to have a garage in the northeast.

Speaker A:

You got to have a garage.

Speaker A:

I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker A:

Yeah, there's.

Speaker A:

There's nothing more convenient than not having to clear the ice off your car.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I definitely, at this stage in my life, I think we're ready for fun.

Speaker B:

I think we're really ready to really embrace the.

Speaker B:

We don't have small children living with us.

Speaker B:

We are responsible for the two of us.

Speaker B:

And there's a freedom in that.

Speaker B:

And with that comes, I think, the fun.

Speaker A:

Well, we got to create the fun.

Speaker A:

Just like you.

Speaker A:

You don't have energy.

Speaker A:

You got to generate it.

Speaker A:

Just the same thing.

Speaker A:

You don't.

Speaker A:

Fun isn't coming to you.

Speaker B:

You gotta make fun.

Speaker A:

You gotta make fun and you gotta have fun and you gotta have fun with each other.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker B:

We have to have fun with each other.

Speaker B:

Like sleeping on a bed.

Speaker B:

That's so hard.

Speaker B:

It feels like the rock I'm sitting on.

Speaker A:

But eventually the memory foam melds in and takes the shape of.

Speaker A:

Of our body.

Speaker A:

I think it was.

Speaker A:

I think it's probably still going to be there the day after we go.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

We'll have to see.

Speaker B:

Or watching a TV that's less than like two feet from your face and.

Speaker A:

Being in the front row.

Speaker B:

What did you say?

Speaker B:

Put your head back in.

Speaker B:

And then it's.

Speaker A:

Because it's on the A frame, so it's mounted on the angle of the A frame.

Speaker B:

So if you put your head back, it's.

Speaker B:

So now you get a crook in your neck.

Speaker B:

Put your head back so you can see it better.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

But that.

Speaker B:

It's fun.

Speaker A:

It's fun.

Speaker B:

It's fun living out in the wilderness where there's nobody.

Speaker A:

Are they any trees either?

Speaker A:

Brushes rush and stuff.

Speaker B:

It's a little freaky.

Speaker B:

Especially after we watched that first episode of that show we were watching last night.

Speaker A:

Oh, the.

Speaker A:

Oh, the.

Speaker B:

The frontier, the Alaskan wilderness.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, okay, I'm in a different kind of wilderness, but it seems like that.

Speaker A:

But in any case, so.

Speaker A:

So what are we going to bring?

Speaker A:

How are we going to bring fun on an everyday basis?

Speaker B:

How are we going to bring fun?

Speaker B:

I think just making sure that we're not as serious about things.

Speaker A:

Nancy, I love you.

Speaker B:

I love you, too.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

It's having fun with each other, you know, and in the morning or in the evenings, when you get back together, you know, do something a little.

Speaker A:

A little special.

Speaker A:

Could just be something like that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Just having fun.

Speaker A:

Make each other laugh, you know?

Speaker A:

That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna go forward.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna lose the phone.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna go forward this week with just curiosity and finding different ways to have fun.

Speaker B:

Amen.

Speaker A:

All right, on that note, but wait, before we.

Speaker A:

Before we end.

Speaker B:

Before we end, let's show you the.

Speaker B:

Well, a little bit.

Speaker B:

A little bit of the Grand Canyon.

Speaker A:

So this is us again.

Speaker A:

Hi.

Speaker A:

Hi.

Speaker A:

Who knows how that's going to show up.

Speaker B:

Look at.

Speaker B:

Down there.

Speaker A:

But look at that.

Speaker A:

It's amazing, isn't it?

Speaker B:

All that.

Speaker B:

It's just carved over millions.

Speaker A:

Beautiful.

Speaker B:

Millions of years.

Speaker A:

All right, on that note, we should probably edit this.

Speaker B:

But we won't.

Speaker B:

But we won't.

Speaker A:

Till next time.

Speaker A:

Bye.

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About the Podcast

We Should Probably Edit This — But We Won't
Unfiltered, unscripted, and unapologetically us.
This is the unfiltered, unscripted podcast where Nancy and Matthew’s real life gets the spotlight—messy, hilarious, and unexpectedly meaningful. From navigating family drama and awkward money talks to wild stories and ones we’ll definitely regret later, hot takes, and questionable life advice, we dive in headfirst—no edits, no scripts, no pretending we’ve got it all figured out.

We laugh, we overshare, we occasionally make sense. Think of it as your weekly dose of real talk, relatable moments, and just enough chaos to make things interesting. Nancy and Matthew keep it raw, relatable, and refreshingly unpolished. Just two people figuring life out in real time—and bringing you along for the ride.

Perfectly imperfect and refreshingly honest. Grab your coffee (or cocktail) and let’s get into it.