Episode 34
Clarity Changes Everything: From Assumptions to Alignment
In Episode 34, Nancy and Matthew explore the power of clarity in relationships, life decisions, and the next chapter ahead. They reflect on how, early in marriage, assumptions often replaced communication—and how real clarity only comes through growth, experience, and intentional conversations.
Now in a new phase of life, they break down their individual top priorities—from faith and marriage to financial freedom, legacy, and purpose—and discover that alignment isn’t about being identical, but about understanding each other deeply.
They also share insights from their recent GrowthDay event in San Diego, where conversations around AI sparked a new level of curiosity, creativity, and possibility for the future.
This episode is honest, reflective, and full of those “wait… that’s actually important” moments that come from real-life conversations.
Takeaways:
- Clarity in a relationship is a gradual development that requires ongoing communication and understanding.
- Early assumptions in marriage often lack true clarity, leading to misunderstandings and unmet expectations.
- Identifying evolving priorities such as faith, family, and finances fosters greater alignment within a long-term partnership.
- Reflecting on personal goals is essential for couples to navigate the complexities of their relationship effectively.
- Recent travel experiences can provide fresh perspectives on personal clarity and future aspirations.
- Leveraging technology, such as AI, can enhance decision-making processes and improve communication in relationships.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- GrowthDay
- ChatGPT
- Claude
- Gemini
Transcript
Welcome to.
Speaker A:We Should Probably Edit this, But we won't.
Speaker B:This is about our life's messy journey.
Speaker B:It's unscripted, talks about growth, real laughs sometimes.
Speaker A:Real laughs sometimes just the chaos and.
Speaker A:And we think there's a little bit of comedy here.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker A:It's about our 37 years of marriage and our experience.
Speaker A:I'm Matthew Greger.
Speaker B:And I'm Nancy Greger.
Speaker B:And we're your host of We Should Probably Edit this.
Speaker A:But we won't.
Speaker A:And we probably should have edited that.
Speaker A:So here's our next episode.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And we're on.
Speaker B:Ooh, it worked.
Speaker A:It worked.
Speaker B:One button.
Speaker A:One button, though.
Speaker B:If you saw the setup, you would say to yourself, are you guys really ready?
Speaker A:Yes, I think we're ready.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker A:Except for now.
Speaker A:You can't read it.
Speaker A:Just have to edit this.
Speaker B:It's okay.
Speaker B:Really, truly, this is okay.
Speaker B:Maybe someday in our very near future, we'll have some professional.
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Speaker A:I can get it up there if I.
Speaker A:If I move it.
Speaker A:Move my hand up enough.
Speaker A:Nope, that went right back down.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Well, we should probably edit this.
Speaker B:But we won't, because that will mean it'll take that much longer to do, and then we'll never get to the post.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:As it is, I still have to get last two weeks ago is posted.
Speaker B:You didn't do that.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Before we left for San Diego.
Speaker A:No, I told you.
Speaker A:I told you.
Speaker B:Oh, boy.
Speaker B:We're so behind.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:We are so behind.
Speaker B:So what's our topic for today?
Speaker B:Any ideas?
Speaker A:You didn't preset it.
Speaker A:You didn't think about it.
Speaker B:The topic for today is going to be clarity.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, there we go.
Speaker A:Sit up.
Speaker A:If you sit up straight, we can get it.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:We're already editing this live.
Speaker A:We're not editing this live because we're editing it later.
Speaker A:We're still trying to get set up in our new environment.
Speaker B:It is a new environment, but it's okay.
Speaker B:You can't be perfect.
Speaker A:No, but I think this is pretty good, though.
Speaker A:Little reflection stuff.
Speaker B:But a little reflection.
Speaker B:It is coming off the ocean into.
Speaker A:Okay, so clarity.
Speaker A:What kind of clarity do you have right now?
Speaker B:Well, there's lots of different things you need clarity on.
Speaker B:You can say, since this is about marriage and relationships, it's clarity on your marriage.
Speaker B:Do you have clarity on your marriage?
Speaker B:Do you think when we were first married, we knew what that word actually meant?
Speaker B:Do you think we were clear when we first got married?
Speaker A:We were.
Speaker A:We thought we had.
Speaker A:We thought we were clear on the things that we did.
Speaker A:But we didn't always have clarity about how the other person was going to respond or what we're doing.
Speaker A:Was it clear?
Speaker A:Did you clearly explain it to the other person?
Speaker B:It's like tomato or tomato.
Speaker B:It's how you say it.
Speaker B:But it means the same thing.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, you.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:The thing is sometimes we just didn't say it at all.
Speaker A:And we ran it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:We made assumptions of the other person's.
Speaker A:And those assumptions are not always clear, that's for sure.
Speaker B:I will say that when you first start.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:When you first go get married, I think to a great extent, you're just learning about each other.
Speaker B:You're figuring out what the other guy has been like.
Speaker B:I mean, because let's face it, up until that point, you.
Speaker B:You really were living with your parents, or you had just been on your
Speaker A:own or you had a roommate, but
Speaker B:you were just trying to figure yourself out.
Speaker A:Yeah, most of the time the roommates were other.
Speaker A:Other guys, in my case.
Speaker A:So I didn't have any real experience.
Speaker B:I didn't room with another guy.
Speaker B:I wrote with a lady.
Speaker A:No, I mean living with another.
Speaker A:I didn't experience with living with the opposite sex and what that meant.
Speaker B:But it was.
Speaker B:I think in the beginning we were just trying to figure out what it is we were looking for, what it is that we were.
Speaker B:Who is good at one thing, who is good at another.
Speaker B:I think there was an opportunity for you kind of moved in emotion, where you were going at it.
Speaker B:Things together.
Speaker A:Emotion or in motion?
Speaker B:Motion.
Speaker A:In motion.
Speaker A:Sometimes there were emotions that were involved in it.
Speaker B:Yeah, there were.
Speaker B:There were emotions.
Speaker B:But having clarity.
Speaker B:When we were first married, I don't.
Speaker B:I can't really say we had that.
Speaker A:Well, what is clarity?
Speaker B:I think clarity is understanding what your goals are and objectives, communicating those objectives and goals out loud.
Speaker A:Did we even have goals when we first got married?
Speaker B:I don't think so.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:I don't even think we even thought about goals.
Speaker B:I think we just.
Speaker B:We lived.
Speaker B:We didn't really have intention.
Speaker B:And I think clarity is what helps you get intention.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I don't think we had any real intention.
Speaker B:I think my objective was we got
Speaker A:married, we were working.
Speaker B:We were working, but I was.
Speaker B:I think one of the objectives was to have children.
Speaker A:Well, not for the first couple years.
Speaker B:That was your.
Speaker A:Oh, you were ready.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You were ready.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You were ready right away.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:I could have been ready right away.
Speaker B:But you wanted to wait.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You wanted at least two years before we were going to have, have children.
Speaker B:Two years, that was, that was your wait time.
Speaker B:But I think from that perspective we had some intention of having a family.
Speaker A:We were clear that we wanted a family.
Speaker B:Well, I think when we, when we first took our pre counseling marriage sessions, there were a lot of questions that you had to ask and you had to talk about.
Speaker B:One of them was how many kids you wanted.
Speaker B:Second was what was your spending habits?
Speaker B:I think financial.
Speaker B:Lee, what were your spending habits?
Speaker B:Or what were you bringing, you know, to the table?
Speaker B:I can't remember.
Speaker A:I can't really remember that very much at all.
Speaker A:So of course it's total blank for you.
Speaker A:Pretty much.
Speaker A:Pretty much.
Speaker B:It's like what happened yesterday?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:No, I know what happened yesterday.
Speaker A:Don't ask me.
Speaker B:Two weeks ago, a month ago?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker A:Well, not on this day.
Speaker A:I mean, I understand.
Speaker B:I mean, but I think there was that beginning of what we were doing, but I don't think there was clarity.
Speaker B:Do you think we have clarity now?
Speaker A:I think we're in the process of getting more clear.
Speaker A:I don't think we have full clarity yet.
Speaker A:We haven't sat down yet.
Speaker A:We were in a different.
Speaker B:We're already in our 60s.
Speaker A:No, we're in a different chapter now.
Speaker A:I mean, we're turning the page on the house is sold.
Speaker A:That's completely done.
Speaker A:Which since our last episode we were getting ready to close, but now we've actually closed, it's finished.
Speaker A:And so we're actually debt free now.
Speaker A:But what now?
Speaker A:And that's the one thing that we have intention.
Speaker A:We have some clarity what we know we want to do, but we don't have it actually written down yet.
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker B:You have to have some thoughts right now.
Speaker B:No, I mean it doesn't have to be written down.
Speaker A:I know we want to travel more.
Speaker A:We also want to give and serve and give back more.
Speaker A:So like what part of it?
Speaker A:What part of what?
Speaker A:Yeah, we have.
Speaker A:We don't have the black and white down yet of what it is.
Speaker A:You've started it, you've started some of the budgeting, some of the allocation of what we're going to do.
Speaker A:You know, we still have to meet with the.
Speaker B:So if you had to list, if you had to listen the top five things in order of importance, what would yours be?
Speaker A:The top five.
Speaker B:Top five of what?
Speaker B:Of what your goal is, what you have clarity for right now, what are your top five things?
Speaker B:And they have to be in the order of one being the most important all the way Down.
Speaker A:Having a better relationship with Christ, with God, I think, is number one.
Speaker A:Number two is family.
Speaker A:That's you as well as our grandkids and our children.
Speaker A:I would group family and friends together in the same bucket with that.
Speaker A:I would say that you're number two.
Speaker A:Honestly.
Speaker A:Number three is family and friends.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker B:What do you mean by me being number two?
Speaker A:Just me, you and us.
Speaker A:Just us.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Us as a couple.
Speaker A:That would be the most important thing to me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:First, you, us.
Speaker A:Second, family and friends.
Speaker A:Third.
Speaker B:Okay, okay, two more.
Speaker A:And then it would be getting ready for retirement.
Speaker A:That means securing our finances, having a financial plan for what that is.
Speaker A:That would mean meeting with the financial advisor, allocating the current funds that we have now.
Speaker B:Go into the details.
Speaker A:All right, all right.
Speaker A:The fifth one is building.
Speaker A:Building a business.
Speaker A:Building how we're going to serve and give back.
Speaker A:And building a business.
Speaker B:Building a business.
Speaker A:Businesses, Things that we want to do.
Speaker A:Because I don't want to retire.
Speaker A:I don't ever want to, quote, retire.
Speaker A:I just want to have the freedom to not have to work for somebody else.
Speaker A:Okay, so now what's your five?
Speaker B:It's funny because kind of not exactly the same.
Speaker A:Okay, well, you threw that for me.
Speaker A:You threw that for me without me thinking about it.
Speaker A:So I may have to give it more thought.
Speaker B:Think why don't you?
Speaker B:I think some of them are basically the same.
Speaker B:It's the order in which we went in which you listed it.
Speaker B:I think there's a difference.
Speaker B:I do believe that there is a growth back into our spirituality again and being reconnected with our creator and figuring out how to best serve and kind of like a little bit more of a different kind of growth and fellowship.
Speaker B:When we started Growth Day and we started Ultra, it was about us.
Speaker B:It was no one say us.
Speaker B:It was about you figuring out yourself, kind of getting some traits more personal.
Speaker B:It was more personal, whereas now I think there's more of a spiritual growth.
Speaker B:So I do believe that that is kind of like up there, number one, trying to figure that out and ways in which you're going to serve.
Speaker B:However, two for me is the financial planning is a little bit more critical because of the fact that we are to some extent in a time crunch.
Speaker B:Hey, listen, I disturb you, so keep it.
Speaker B:Keep.
Speaker B:I'm going down my list.
Speaker A:And when I fine you go down your list.
Speaker B:Keep thought as to what you want to rebuttal.
Speaker A:So two would be interject while we go along.
Speaker B:Two would be more about finances and getting that together because we've Made a huge commitment in my part to making that a very high up priority.
Speaker B:And that is.
Speaker B:We sold our house with the intent.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:To be debt free.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker B:I mean, we.
Speaker B:The fact we got a little extra, that was God's good grace coming our way.
Speaker B:But we sold the house with the intent to be financially free, debt free.
Speaker A:Let me interject.
Speaker B:Oh, there's no way I didn't interject for you.
Speaker A:I'm gonna interject.
Speaker A:I'm gonna interject here.
Speaker A:Just because.
Speaker A:Just because.
Speaker B:Because what?
Speaker B:You can't remember your thoughts?
Speaker A:No, no, I was gonna do that as my number two offer.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I want to explain my reasoning because I know how much family is important to you and stuff too.
Speaker A:That I said.
Speaker A:Okay, if I say that number.
Speaker A:If I say it's number two, it's like.
Speaker B:But that's not the basis by which.
Speaker B:Okay, but see, you didn't give me a marriage.
Speaker A:You didn't give me enough time to think about it.
Speaker B:What I said to you is, what are your top five?
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And given your preference, because that's how you view it.
Speaker B:My preference is mine.
Speaker B:However, there's similarities in what we're looking at.
Speaker B:They're not very much different.
Speaker B:It's just the order by which we rank them.
Speaker A:All right, that's it.
Speaker A:Fine.
Speaker A:But I would have been number two
Speaker B:at the potential, too.
Speaker B:No, take heat, backies, go on.
Speaker B:No, take heat backies, go on.
Speaker B:Third would definitely be.
Speaker B:I think our marriage.
Speaker B:We continue to grow and continue to figure things out.
Speaker B:And doing this podcast, for all intents and purposes, is a real big.
Speaker B:Throw yourself out there and see where it takes you and where it goes.
Speaker B:Fourth is my family.
Speaker B:Because part of my number two, which is being financially fit, is also determining what our legacy is going to be for our family, for our three children, for our four grandchildren.
Speaker B:And God willing, there'll be more grandchildren along the way.
Speaker B:But at least putting together some sort of legacy so that after we're gone, there's something else that's going to be able to continue.
Speaker B:And to some extent, we would have played a role in that.
Speaker A:Yeah, but legacy doesn't necessarily mean money.
Speaker A:You know, it means having experiences with
Speaker B:our children, a role in that.
Speaker B:I define it by saying just money, because sometimes it can't be money.
Speaker B:Memories, time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Together.
Speaker B:So I do believe that, that that's how I'm looking at.
Speaker B:And then number five.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think it's figuring out where we want to be.
Speaker B:Though you may not.
Speaker B:You may want to Always be striving and moving and still generating.
Speaker A:Still.
Speaker B:I can't remember anymore time, you know, generating some income.
Speaker B:I don't necessarily look at.
Speaker A:Well, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't necessarily know if it means generating income.
Speaker B:It just may be me busy work.
Speaker B:You want to be busy?
Speaker A:No, but it might be volunteering.
Speaker A:It might be doing something.
Speaker A:Like it's keeping.
Speaker B:Sounds like it's busy work.
Speaker A:Okay, but it's also keeping myself occupied and doing something busy.
Speaker A:No, busy's different.
Speaker A:Busy is just meaning you have to be doing something.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:What do we decide?
Speaker B:I'm gonna go get the dictionary.
Speaker A:But we know we need to remain active.
Speaker B:Right, but active could be I go out for a walk or I lift weights or I do something.
Speaker B:Nature.
Speaker B:Not necessarily.
Speaker A:Okay, but.
Speaker A:Well, all right.
Speaker B:A business.
Speaker B:Not necessarily a business.
Speaker A:I hear you.
Speaker A:I mean, Amanda might be volunteering for score, like I was doing before.
Speaker A:That's not my business.
Speaker A:But I'm still helping and giving advice.
Speaker B:I understand you're still being.
Speaker A:It might just mean that I'm playing tennis.
Speaker B:But there's a definition here I'm not looking at seeing.
Speaker B:I'm going to be.
Speaker A:I'm talking about.
Speaker A:I'm talking about right now, the five top things that are important to us right now.
Speaker A:You know, that may change in another, you know, seven or eight years from now.
Speaker A:But right now, those things that we talked about, I think are important.
Speaker A:Having that business, having that other income coming in besides our jobs is important for us, too.
Speaker B:Once again, I'd like to get finished with my top five before you decide to redefine your top five, which is what you're doing.
Speaker B:You're redefining your top five because you're hearing what I have to say.
Speaker B:Okay, you go, wah, wah, wah all you want, but in any case, those would be my top five, too, which I still.
Speaker A:Number five.
Speaker B:Then it was.
Speaker B:It was just looking at what the future might be.
Speaker B:But not necessarily a business.
Speaker B:Not necessarily, you know, doing something that would generate any money, necessarily.
Speaker A:Are you talking about.
Speaker A:Are you talking about right now or are you talking about in the future?
Speaker B:In the future.
Speaker A:Okay, but what about right now?
Speaker A:Isn't that important right now?
Speaker B:I think it's important in order to help accelerate number two.
Speaker A:Okay, so it's important right now.
Speaker A:So it needs to be part of the top five, which it is.
Speaker A:That can redefine later.
Speaker B:Whether it's how it generates later on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:How it evolves later on.
Speaker A:I guess you could call that clarity.
Speaker A:And in alignment, we might be.
Speaker A:Have to shift some numbers around a little bit.
Speaker A:See, now what we have to do is we have to come together with that and have an alignment in the top five because.
Speaker B:But we do.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:We just have it structured a little bit differently.
Speaker A:I don't think so.
Speaker A:I don't think we're that far off.
Speaker B:I don't think we're far off at all.
Speaker B:I think we're just exactly where we want to be.
Speaker B:But I think a lot of work has gone into figuring out that clarity.
Speaker B:I don't think necessarily that you can expect, especially when you first get married or even 10 years into your marriage, that you'll have that much clarity.
Speaker B:Because it all depends on where you are at.
Speaker A:Depends on how much you work on yourself, too.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:Because honestly, you can't have clarity as a couple if you don't know yourself
Speaker B:what you want to achieve, what you want to have.
Speaker B:And then again, talk about it out loud to your partner and saying, hey, this is what I'm looking for myself.
Speaker B:What are you looking for?
Speaker B:What is it that you want to achieve?
Speaker B:Because they may not always be the same as a bug.
Speaker B:They may not always be the same, but it's important that you know what the other guy wants because you're going to be there in a supportive.
Speaker B:In a supportive role as to what that is.
Speaker B:And if it's really far off, well, then it's a.
Speaker B:It's a good means of discussion, right?
Speaker A:Well, you're going to need to discuss it.
Speaker B:You're always going to need to discuss it.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:It's a matter of.
Speaker A:I mean, if you're serious, you're really far off.
Speaker A:And I want to do something.
Speaker A:I want to move.
Speaker A:I want to, like, change careers or I want to do something that impacts us as a family.
Speaker B:There's a lot of conversations to it.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's a lot of conversation that has to be discussed.
Speaker B:And you got to be willing to say what's going to bother you or say what your concerns are, say what you're in a fear the most.
Speaker B:Because once it's out there, it's kind of out there.
Speaker B:It's like a saying someone said to me a very, very long time ago is that you always imagine the worst.
Speaker B:Because once you have that in your head and you know that's the worst for you, then everything else is what you're going to do to not have that outcome.
Speaker B:You're going to really work hard at making sure that that's not an item, that's not gonna Happen.
Speaker A:You always imagine the worst case?
Speaker A:Pretty much on big decisions.
Speaker B:On big decisions, sure.
Speaker B:On big decisions.
Speaker B:What's the worst that can happen?
Speaker B:When I list my house for sale?
Speaker B:Well, it doesn't sell for what I want to sell it for.
Speaker A:It takes longer.
Speaker A:We're now paying rent.
Speaker B:It takes longer.
Speaker B:I'd have to pay rent and mortgage.
Speaker B:Something occurs before you finally close, and you're scrambling to try to figure out how to fix it.
Speaker B:There were lots of things, but if you think about them and you see it, you're gonna do your best to prevent that from happening.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And a lot of what we did in getting the house ready was just that point.
Speaker B:After we met the agent and he told us what he anticipated our house selling for, every time you and I had a discussion, what would be the one thing I would always say to you?
Speaker A:Well, you had your mental.
Speaker B:What was the one thing I always said to you when I said to you, we think we should do this or we need to do this?
Speaker B:Why would I say that?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker B:You know why?
Speaker A:Uh.
Speaker A:Oh, why remind me.
Speaker B:Because you want a million dollars for your house.
Speaker B:You're gonna spend the money to fix what you need to fix in your house.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Why do we have to paint that wall?
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker A:Well, no, I knew why we had to paint the wall because the touching up didn't match, didn't work.
Speaker B:But some people would have just said, forget it.
Speaker B:Some people wouldn't have gone the extra mile.
Speaker B:Some people wouldn't have taken the time out to get their house prepared the way it should be prepared.
Speaker B:A lot of people just wing it.
Speaker B:They just go out there and say, all right, this is it.
Speaker B:They don't go through any of the process, and they just kind of throw it out and say, let's hope for the best.
Speaker B:But sometimes you have to prepare.
Speaker B:Sometimes you have to take certain steps to ensure that you can get the outcome you want to get.
Speaker A:I mean, it's no different than also you going for a job.
Speaker A:You've got to go.
Speaker A:You got to take that extra step.
Speaker A:You got to write that cover letter.
Speaker A:You got to do those extra things to make yourself stand out.
Speaker B:To make yourself stand out.
Speaker B:So those are the kind of things that I, you know, these last few months, I think, have given us even that much more as far as the clarity as to what we were going to be doing and how we were going to be doing it.
Speaker B:And I think we were very boisterous, especially on the podcast, but even with our friends and family, when we finally said, hey, we're selling our house.
Speaker B:And we, we had a lot of thought about doing that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because we were like, okay, what are people gonna think that we're selling our house?
Speaker B:And, and I mean, because the American dream is to get a house.
Speaker B:And I realized I had achieved that American dream three times over.
Speaker B:So I wasn't necessarily concerned about the fact that I would not be able to do it again.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because I had achieved that.
Speaker B:I had done that.
Speaker B:I've been there, done that type of deal.
Speaker B:So I knew I could when the time is ready, if, when I'm ready, I can buy another house.
Speaker B:It wasn't like I couldn't.
Speaker B:It wasn't as though I didn't have the ability to think we could.
Speaker A:So we just got back from San Diego.
Speaker A:What clarity did you get from that trip?
Speaker B:I mean, for me, it was more or less the whole topic of conversation.
Speaker B:When I first heard about what the topic was, which was all AI, I was kind of like, this is going to be technical.
Speaker B:And I'm really not that type of person.
Speaker A:Chat no, is this going to be technical?
Speaker B:It was kind of like those were the things I was concerned about.
Speaker B:But Brendan had a great way of really introducing the topic that made sense to, from the person who's really young to the person who's more seasoned.
Speaker B:And I definitely walked away with saying, oh, this time in life, unlike what it was like 30 some odd years ago, there's a huge shift.
Speaker B:And the shift is really moving people from a lot of certain types of jobs that required you to physically do them and know him and go to school for them to suddenly realize, oh, that could be automated.
Speaker B:And that's what AI really is all about, is automating certain things.
Speaker A:It's augmenting your, your job and your tasks so that you can do them, number one, better.
Speaker A:Number two, do the things that you don't want to do so you can spend more time doing the things that you're good at and that you want
Speaker B:to do, that you want to do.
Speaker A:And if you can implement that and you can excel at being the best of who you can be and let AI help with all that other stuff, you know, I think that's, that's, that's a key, that's a key piece that you can do.
Speaker B:I'm waiting for my robot.
Speaker B:She's gonna come and she's gonna take care of everything in the house.
Speaker A:I think we have a couple more years for that anyways.
Speaker B:But the objective of it was not what I had originally had envisioned in my head of what?
Speaker B:This.
Speaker A:So you walked away thinking that maybe you could actually do some of this too, versus having to be a totally technical person to do it.
Speaker B:Correct, correct.
Speaker B:I don't think you have to be totally technical.
Speaker B:I think you have to be open minded.
Speaker B:I think you have to be willing to make a lot of mistakes and
Speaker A:experiment and know that.
Speaker B:And experiment and knowing that you can learn and you can evolve and you can figure things out.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:We can figure things out.
Speaker B:And that's the part that I walked away saying, oh, okay, let's see.
Speaker B:And I think that's really important.
Speaker B:It's not so much the fear of losing your job, it's what you can focus your energies on.
Speaker A:Well, I think, I think, I mean this is the best time right now to really explore and get curious, I mean really get curious about what you can actually do.
Speaker A:And honestly it's unlimited.
Speaker A:It's what you can think.
Speaker A:And the thing about it is now you can actually think about it and do it.
Speaker A:You can try different things, you can be divergent, come up with a bunch of ideas.
Speaker A:Some are going to work, some aren't.
Speaker A:But you have the opportunity to really compete with anyone else out there.
Speaker A:And I think that's the key to all of this.
Speaker A:I mean, the Internet leveled the playing field in business.
Speaker A:AI is going to limit the playing field overall.
Speaker B:Overall, yeah.
Speaker B:Because I can remember when we first started and the Internet was just coming out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When we first started with our first,
Speaker B:when we first started with our first business and you had the dial up, you know, you hear the aol, aol.
Speaker B:And I remember how, how that was a really big challenge for a lot of small business owners.
Speaker B:They were like, I don't want to do it.
Speaker B:I don't see why it's going to mean for me.
Speaker B:I still have the yellow page in.
Speaker B:People can find me in the yellow pages.
Speaker B:So to have evolved from this point on where the Internet is probably something that every single person utilizes, well, now
Speaker A:that now the kids grow up with it ingrained and they wouldn't even, they wouldn't even, they don't even know what a dial up is or what an actually rotary dial phone is.
Speaker B:So those are my favorite.
Speaker B:And I still have one, by the way.
Speaker B:I still have a rotary phone.
Speaker B:Someday I will reinstall it just so that I can have my grandchildren go
Speaker A:one and they can call, they can call, they can call the other one on their, on their cell phone with it, with the, I don't know, that may be a challenge to get it connected.
Speaker B:But yeah, yeah, because landlines would have gone away somewhere, but there's still buildings that still have old phone lines and they're just not active.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I think those are the kind of things.
Speaker B:So I walked away.
Speaker B:I walked away more energized and more optimistic than I thought about it at first because I was just like, I'm not sure about these topics.
Speaker B:And we had missed.
Speaker B:I think we missed one or two of the online conversations.
Speaker B:So I'm not sure if he had, like, talked about it before we actually met in San Diego, but the challenge was laid down and he challenged everybody to really get into the AI and take what they already know now and see what they can really develop within the next, because the next meeting is in June.
Speaker B:So I look forward to figuring that out.
Speaker A:And on that note, we need to get into it.
Speaker A:So we need to have some conversation with.
Speaker A:With Chod, with ChatGPT, with Gemini, with some of those different ones.
Speaker B:Claude.
Speaker A:So what do you think?
Speaker A:Chat?
Speaker A:All right, so on that note, I think we should probably edit this, but we won't.
Speaker A:So until next time, give us a comment.
Speaker A:Let us know how you're doing.
Speaker A:Let us know what you think about AI and how that's going to change your world.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:Bye.
